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I also feel like the ruse would be a lot easier to maintain if JM waited to go out with YR until they were done with the scheme but then we wouldn't get all the shenanigans, I know.
I know a lot of people thought the soup kiss was hot but I thought JangMi looked sweaty and un appealing with the soup all over her face like a child so it didn't do anything for me.
Plus I don't like her with YeoReum so I was too busy screaming nooooooooo at my computer to enjoy anything.
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I appreciate them acknowledging how insightful JM is though. She's the only one who really empathizes with KiTae's mother and who sees her pain and she sees that YR's aloofness hides a painful scar as well what is with the parents on this show?!
It's nice to see that she isn't only clingy and too earnest. I think the Chairman's wife lady got what Jang Mi was going through - even though all the men seemed totally oblivious. That may have prompted her "she is not a robot" remark. I burst out laughing at that scene. I can't believe they actually made her poop in her pants. That's hilarious. I am loving it. But when will the romance between kitae and jang mi begin??? Am desperately waiting for it. Yoreum is good alright but he cannot be the one for her.
Kitae go get the girl! Forget about marriage and just tell her you like her. I love the song posted above! I don't know what the song is saying I don't speak Korean but I'm assuming it's about that happy feeling you get when you fall in love. That's the vibe I get from the song anyhow. It's effervescent and bubbly and it makes me smile and giddy.
I'm adding it to my "Yihee" playlist which is basically made up of songs whose lyrics and melody make me giddy or kilig as we call it in the Philippines.
On to the show: I cringe for Jang-mi. Poor girl can't catch a break.?? ?? ?? - 15?: ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ??
I laughed like mad when I realized that dramatic opening sequence was about poop in the pants. And Yeo-reum. I'm not sure yet what I feel about him. He's such an odd mix of gentleman and jerk, perfect man and bastard. I mean the good looks and cooking are great but his bouts of immaturity and assiness are very off-putting. Also, I loathe pretty boys who know they're pretty and are so self-assured of their prettiness that they assume all girls have a thing for them or will have thing for them eventually if they didn't at the beginning.
Thank goodness for Ki-tae who is consistent and doesn't blow hot and cold. I really like his character despite his flaws and occasional misanthropy. That bitch ex-fiancee of his is UGH. She's so smug and self-serving! What she wants, she gets. And she'll do whatever it takes. She's the most annoying character her. More annoying than the immature douche Hoon-dong. He, at least, is hilariously pathetic and harmless.
In love with this drama. This episode sealed the deal. The typhoon was both hilarious and mortifying, and I was cringing and bursting out in laughter at the same time! Omg this drama is hands down my favourite of the year so far.
I very, very rarely re-watch dramas but I could watch this over and over and never get bored. I like the ambiguity of some of the relationships- despite the wacky premise the realness of this and the commitment of the actors really sells it. And this episode in particular was absolutely hilarious. Once I realised what the typhoon was referring to I almost had to watch through my fingers, dreading what was going to happen, but when they replayed the opening scene I was crying with laughter.
Thank you girlfriday and LollyPip for the recaps! I was actually waiting for a little graphic in nature when they zoom in on her legs and started goin upwards. I fersure thought they were gonna have something dripping down and I was anticipating it so much I forgot to even breath.
Thet are truly suffering from 'sins of the father'. Lesson to be learned - Parents out there - your words and actions or inaction puts a stamp on your kids that they carry thruoughout life. I really dislike Yeo-reum. When I first started this drama, I didn't realize he'd get so much screentime.
Couldn't agree more. The only thing good is that there is no 2nd lead syndrome bout wanting him with jang mi. It's one thing to give an actor that could act like hoon with screen time but YR couldn't act for the life of him. I have an idea for Ki-taes mom: make them get married! She must know that he is so hung up on his privacy, I think she will at some point just make them get married. Then they will chicken out badly People are saying that he's a bad actor and it comes across into his character?
Could totally be possible! I'm so busy reading the subtitles since I don't speak Korean that I can fully admit that I may lose out on the subtleties of the performance. All I know is that he belongs chained in my kitchen smiling that smile.
Thank you Girlfriday for the great recap. I am loving this drama and you have voiced my take on it like you where in my head lol. The one thought I would like to add is I have enjoyed is the cold scene in the front but in ep6 I noticed that my perception of the scene initially was very different than at end. I really like the use of this tool. I know that the dialog is rapid pace and clever, but most of the time, the subs steamroll right over the puns and give us little of the flavor.
I never ever thought I would appreciate a poignant moment being brought on by bathroom humor, but as you said, GF, this show keeps surprising us.
The show this reminds me of - Kim Sam Soon - had that no toilet paper scene that I loved, too, in how it further defined the OTP's relationship. Why is this show soooo good? Laica said it well when she talks about how relatable the characters are.
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They are people we know in situations we have been in. I mean, admit it, everyone there was a time when you also needed to find a bathroom stat. Only they take the situation and BLOW it up and make it as ridiculous as it could possibly be. BUT - the silly people running around and falling down to all the goofy sound effects and music are lovable.
We laugh with them but want to give them hugs at the same time. Even in all its 'drama' moments, we get pulled in by how 'real' and relatable it is, and how human some of the feelings are Thanks jomo! I agree with that it has a bit of the KSS vibe, in that we cringe for the main character and laugh with her, while totally rooting for her in the moment. Despite her mistakes, and maybe even because of them.
And yeah, this is definitely one of those shows where a lot is lost in translation, unfortunately. And in the age of lightning-fast subs. It's quite funny, hopefully the writers keep up the momentum.
I have never cried so much This blows every bathroom-walk-in and crazy-drunks incidents out of the water, pun intended! And the fact that they're both cool and accept that this is just a normal human problem afterwards is so lovely. This is no doubt the best rom-COM in a while.
Aaaaah I love this drama. I started watching the first two episodes last weekend and ended up watching all six and still want moar.
Heh, how cute is it that she's named Jangmi-- "rose" and she's both soft and prickly at the same time. And Yeoreum is "summer", right? I don't know what Ki-tae means but when I tried Google Translate on the Ki-tae twitter his name was translated to "air pacific.
Jangmi's like a walking disaster a lot of the time I was covering my eyes in secondhand mortification a lot of the time and yet peeking through my fingers in helpless fascination. I love her so much already-- she gets into such embarrassing situations but she always comes out fighting, even if not unscathed.
With this "typhoon" incident-- I'm guessing Mom's warming up to her already Part of the reason why I love this drama so much is the way it circumvents typical Kdrama tropes and brings in unexpected depth and "atypicalness" to it's characters. I've read so much "hate" for Yeo-Reum's character online. But what is a second lead?
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A typical second lead is a straight up guy, who is always there for the lead female when things go wrong, he's basically her knight in shiny armor, or even a door mat, sometimes he's so good, he doesn't confess to the lead girl his feelings until it's too late for anything to be done about it. Sometimes, he even chases the lead girl but for one reason or another misses out because she has fallen for the lead guy.
In "Marriage Not Dating" the second lead is a guy, who's like any other regular guy out there. He's not too interested in the lead female, actually, she's the one chasing him, not the other way around. When someone chases another person, it's the person doing the chasing that would naturally put in more work and feelings into the relationship. It's no wonder why people are mad for Yeo-Reum not measuring up to the typical second lead character and calling him Shifty or Sleek or Elusive.
At this point, we're not sure he's leading her on, we're not sure he really likes her, sometimes we get glimpses into what he's feeling and sometimes he shuts off. Just like any regular person who's cautious and who's taking their time to get to know another person. I see him as an onion, whose layers are peeled off and revealed at every episode. This may have been perfectly true at the time, but we are seeing that change as Yeo Reum's interest in Jang-mi is growing.
I think the character is portrayed perfectly. Many times as viewers, we are disappointed when the characters do not perform as we expect them to. We already have a mindset of what to expect from a character but when they act opposite, or when the plot takes an unexpected direction, we get disappointed and slam the character for not being portrayed properly.
This is only natural and I'm guilty of it myself.
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As for the kisses - wow, both of them were hot! Part of the process of finding a life partner involves dating and experimentation. I would tell Jang-Mi "More grease to your elbow". I love how this drama breaks the stereo-type by allowing the lead actress date different people until she finds who she really wants to be with. I guess my biggest annoyance with yeo rum is not the character itself but rather the actor. With hoon dong i get that he needs to overact and so while hes the "villain" i still enjoy his acting bc it matches up with his character, bratty and overacting.
Yeo rum? Hmm it could be excused as mysterious but to me he looks like he just wanna keep his face beautiful which he is! Without much depth. Mysterious would be shin sung rok in man from another star. I really like your username : I feel like alcoholic bubble tea would just be amazing. Especially if you soak the tapioca balls in some booze beforehand? I've never tried this before but ooomf! I want to now!
To say that he is there when she needs him and is her knight I don't see exactly where u found that at. He has always initiated all their interactions in order for info but I guess u can say he slowly started feeling something for jang mi.
The person she ever confessed her true feelings were for her Co worker and ki tai. He is the one that acted like he was chasing her in the beginning and till now. However, Yeo Reum isn't anyone of those things. He's just a regular guy who flirted with Jang Mi and Jang Mi fell for his moves and started chasing him.
In reality, most guys are like that. In reality, it is very difficult to find a typical Korean second lead. The appeal of this drama, is that it mirrors more of what happens in real life, than what one is expected to see in dramas, issues such as infidelity, divorce or separation, spousal disharmony and child abandonment are treated more realistically.
BOth of the other males tend to act childish in their behavior since the toy they want might get snatch away by Ki tai. I dislike the character YR, but I think he is written well, in that his character portrays a realistic "second lead" type of guy. I suppose we're all so used to the perfect second-lead that when a flawed one comes in, we reject it. Anyway, that's the thing I love about this drama is that the writer doesn't hold back and is breaking all that K-dramaland perfect character guidelines, and instead make them relatable with flaws and have realistic situation.
I just wish he gets rid of that smile! It was cute at first but now it's overrated and so inappropriate at times. Great insight! And I totally agree. I'm a big Yeo-reum fan but I think in total there's only 3 of us in the comment section that seem to have a positive opinion of him. I think the reason why I do like him so much is because he DOES seem like a normal, regular guy to me I don't usually fall for the second lead second lead syndrome?
Never because they never seem to be real people YR seems like an actual person: he super good looking and he knows it I think he wasn't interested in Jang-mi at first and was just "tending to his pond" but then came along this crazy girl who drinks too much and cares too much and it took him by surprise because she didn't fall for his looks right off the bat she was actually head-over-heels for his ridiculous boss and when she finally did develop an interest in him it was because he behaved like a gentleman.
I don't think that they're meant to be together or anything We all know Ki-tae has all the claims on that piece of real estate! Plus, it's still not clear how much we CAN trust him though ep. I just don't understand why so many people seem against YR, I think having an interesting, imperfect second lead is great! I think YR is a really well-written part and a nice departure from traditional 2nd lead characters. It's very refreshing to have a 2nd lead who's just a dude with some issues like most human beings who's taking his time with an interesting girl how most relationships develop.
I like that the show doesn't treat dating as this super precious thing, and allows Jang-mi to test the waters with a few people to discover what she truly wants and needs in a partner. Most shows treat love as the end-all-be-all, when in fact even minor relationships help us learn and grow in small ways that ultimately make us more or less, as the case may be with Ki-tae available to our long-term partners.
My problem with YR isn't because he isn't acting in line with what I expected of him, being a second lead. I actually think I would like him as a character if he was played by a different actor.
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I get that he's supposed to be this guy that, at least on the outside, doesn't seem to care about much when it comes to his relationships, especially with women. He fights his fear of abandonment by never taking relationships all that seriously Along the way, of course, it seems that he's becoming at least somewhat sincere in his relationship with JM There is no nuance to his performance, which to me, is something that it really calls for.
His constant wide smiling, rather than coming off as playful or flirty or as something that he sometimes uses so mask what he's truly feeling and make light of a situation I actually laughed and not in a good way at the scene in episode 6 where he goes to meet JM at her work at around the 11 minute mark. Don't mean to offend anybody that likes the actor or his performance, just my take on it. I actually thought that he was one of the more tolerable parts of DH2, although I did drop that show pretty early on.
Yeah, I agree with you that the problem with Yeo-reum may be the actor, because it's his vibe more than what he actually says that gives me that feeling that something is off.
The character is written to have alternating moments of sincerity and insincerity, but even in the moments he's supposed to be genuine, I'm not buying it. This is especially glaring in episode 6, but I'll wait til that recap to talk about it. And that's a fault of Jinwoon's acting rather than the writing. I like him as an idol, but this role would have been more nuanced and YR a more compelling second lead in the hands of a more experienced and skilled actor.
While YR may not be a despicable Wickham, he may have a back-story that does not reflect well on his current intentions. Of course all of the above are the bones of most romcoms, but it is interesting to compare them here, too. LOL I never saw it from that perspective before, but reading your comments I have to agree that your analysis is quite accurate. Those are interesting parallels, for sure Elizabeth was pragmatic, practical, sarcastic, careful and judgemental.
I love Jang-mi, but she is none of these things. Ki-tae MIGHT have some Darcy-like tendencies distant, honest in the rudest of ways, thinks all women are out to get him because of his looks and wealth but thankfully, in the end, he strikes me more as a Mr. Knightly than anything else. I don't know if I've ever laughed so long and hard from a Kdrama before, then at that ending poop scene.
It was a combination of not turning out to be the situation I thought it was and the fact that I'm immature and appreciate a good poop joke. I loved it! Great episode That poop, the wind blows.
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